This thread would be invaluable to freecell players throughout the world. It's a shame there's no way to get the word out.
Game: W7x4 23620-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1705;..... Player Elo: 2320.586 ▲ 0.225.
TitanicTony, what do you think your elo would be if you did not use the deck of cards and your losses were posted?
Maybe around the 1500 average player range?
Posting losses as well as wins would monumentally increase the size of these useless threads; but, other than that, I don't see how ELO would be at all affected.
I'm an "around the 1500 average player", though and thus may not know what I'm talking about.
After my post, I got to wondering why I even had a streak in 12x4. Then I remembered I rang those up when all games were rated 1500. Short lived, yet such a sweet era.
Maybe it should be reset back to 1500 for everybody. That would give TT and Ellie a chance to catch Hop.
For history's sake I should mention only the players started at 1500. The games were given estimated ratings right from the beginning. You still would have taken points anywhere you played for a while until your own rating normalized, so I get why you would remember it this way.
That's correct, it was this problem.
I also looked at 11x4 level 12 statistics as a sample to see the elo changes. There are only 9 plays at this level.
| 28489 | 1 | 0 | 0.00 | 1317 |
| 1544 | 1 | 1 | 100.00 | 396 |
Oh, gotcha, so there was something weird going on at the time in that level. Makes sense now.
Game: 6x8 21949-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1260;..... Player Elo: 2321.960 ▲ 0.018.
Game: 6x7 28177-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1473;..... Player Elo: 2323.763 ▲ 0.059.
Game: 5x8 3360-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1807;..... Player Elo: 2324.152 ▲ 0.389.
Game: W7x4 19533-9;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1709;..... Player Elo: 2274.034 ▲ 0.299.
Game: W7x4 21361-9;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1709;..... Player Elo: 2275.980 ▲ 0.295.
Game: W7x4 29695-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1704;..... Player Elo: 2324.890 ▲ 0.219.
Game: W7x4 13152-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1704;..... Player Elo: 2325.660 ▲ 0.217.
Game: W7x4 29100-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1704;..... Player Elo: 2325.877 ▲ 0.217.
Game: W7x4 22811-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1704;..... Player Elo: 2326.094 ▲ 0.217.
Game: W7x4 28030-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1703;..... Player Elo: 2326.526 ▲ 0.216.
Game: 9x1 19419-6;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1672;..... Player Elo: 2277.527 ▲ 0.239.
Game: W5x8 30847-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1807;..... Player Elo: 2279.634 ▲ 0.496.
Game: W6x5 6042-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1936;..... Player Elo: 2280.610 ▲ 0.975.
Game: 8x3 22767-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1648;..... Player Elo: 2328.245 ▲ 0.157.
Game: 6x5 23461-6;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1633;..... Player Elo: 2328.389 ▲ 0.144.
Game: 12x0 28062-7;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1351;..... Player Elo: 2276.364 ▲ 0.039.
Game: 4x10 3518-6;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1629;..... Player Elo: 2320.981 ▲ 0.147.
Lots of 13x3, climate 7 games have not been played, Tony and Ellie:
#'s 2,3,5,11,13,14,17,19,20,21..................."and many more"! All 0/0. Ripe for your picking.
4x4-10, too. I hear they are all winnable if you play them enough times. I am not sure where I heard that, I think from smelly.
I would make a request for a new variant. Then you can post every game you play.
He doesn't have to make a request for a new variant. Just play custom and create one, say 10x10 level 10.
Actually, that variant isn't new. It's been played six times.
And, I think it is impossible to lose. As a matter of fact, the fun might be in trying to lose it.
That might be an idea for a tournament. A group of different variants that are difficult to lose, but not impossible. Is there a solver that could solve in reverse? I mean, find games that can be lost.
It would be like you would have to rewire your mind in the opposite direction. Instead of thinking of winning, think of losing. Losing wins.
I think I'm on to something here.
You're on something alright. I wouldn't do any driving tonight.
Game: 7x3 25767-7;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1879;..... Player Elo: 2299.747 ▲ 0.657.
Game: 6x7 11667-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1474;..... Player Elo: 2300.462 ▲ 0.068.
Game: 5x8 3637-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1806;..... Player Elo: 2300.904 ▲ 0.441.
Game: W4x10 7582-7;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1714;..... Player Elo: 2305.862 ▲ 0.258.
Game: W4x10 16185-7;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1714;..... Player Elo: 2306.119 ▲ 0.257.
Game: 7x7 12566-6;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/863;..... Player Elo: 2306.281 ▲ 0.002.
Game: W8x3 13648-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1649;..... Player Elo: 2306.458 ▲ 0.178.
Game: W7x4 8935-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1705;..... Player Elo: 2306.702 ▲ 0.244.
Game: W6x5 5933-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1936;..... Player Elo: 2307.551 ▲ 0.849.
I myself have never played polo...but we all can dream.
"I myself have never played polo"
Yes, but someone has played polo before. Therefore your post is on the wrong thread. Tony can assist you to determine which thread to post your comment.
Well, of course semantics can be played...but that merely begs the question: "Has original poster ever played polo?"...since, what? I'm supposed to peruse subsequent post upon post to determine the road upon which thread is coursing?
This site dies when playfulness is squelched, get over it.
Too baked to beat it first try, but fair rating 1348 I'd say.
| Game: | 11x1 24429-12 |
| Game stats: | 2/1/50% |
I just invented a game called "Pin the Tail on the Titanic Tony", but since I haven't made up all the rules yet.................it's never been played before. Not gonna say much about it, for, you know, the usual "intellectual property" reasons -- as if a fence post could have such.
A fence post has more intellectual property than my boy.
So does a sack of hair.
Is the tail made of a group of playing cards strung together?
Game: 5x7 17608-9;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1828;..... Player Elo: 2308.658 ▲ 0.476.
That's one of the directions I've been thinking, rbw--3, but I was also wanting to do something with a dunce cap. That'd be hard to make into a tail, tho. This is all still very much in the conceptualization stage. Some form of "performance art" would be very neat. And TT has multiple times said he'd like to make one of the cellstocks. Hmmmm......
Game: 6x8 1407-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1261;..... Player Elo: 2308.987 ▲ 0.019.
Game: 7x4 6380-7;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1540;..... Player Elo: 2311.707 ▲ 0.093.
Game: 7x4 221-8;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1620;..... Player Elo: 2311.854 ▲ 0.147.
Game: 7x4 17466-8;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1620;..... Player Elo: 2312.095 ▲ 0.146.
Game: 7x4 27130-8;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1620;..... Player Elo: 2312.241 ▲ 0.146.
Game: 5x8 20952-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1806;..... Player Elo: 2313.452 ▲ 0.412.
Game: 6x7 12893-10;..... Game stats: 1/1/100%/1470;..... Player Elo: 2313.547 ▲ 0.062.
It is amazing to me that after more than 20 years SO MANY games have never been played.
I guess it is because so many variants are SO MUCH less popular than 8x4!
"It is amazing to me that after more than 20 years SO MANY games have never been played.
I guess it is because so many variants are SO MUCH less popular than 8x4!"
Brilliant analysis, TT, considering that this fact has been pointed out to you countless times, with copious examples of variants still ripe for your picking and abuse. Do you realize this makes you come across as a slow learner? Hard-headed? A better question might be........
"It is amazing to [us] that TitanicTony, having played (and repeatedly re-played) thousands of games on this site, annnnd....................being a statistician.................can't grasp that the wonderful stats pages "Game Stats" and "Cumulative Game Stats" have all such info well laid out. Not to mention the pages cellmate tabulated."
THAT's the mystery to the rest of us.